Monster oil but a gentle giant. Loving this oil. Skeptics say that because there are now different types of kinam (Brunei kinam, Chinese kinam, white kinam, etc.) It lingers in the corners of a room for at least an hour for me, and is rich, damp, loamy, dark. But one will be a brain surgeon, the next one an opthalmologist, yet another a psychiatrist. Too bad it costs so much, but that's because it's rare, or is it?? Throw together random batches from Hong Kong, Vietnam and Cambodia, and you wont get this smell. Chokoh and Ryugen are equally good but different for different purposes. Because it just does; Chokoh too. Update next day: Slept like a baby. Specifically, I'm struggling with Shunkohdo's Kyara Aioi No Matsu which has gotten good reviews from lots of people. From this evolution in kinam appreciation came two schools of thought: the Japanese and the Chinese. Her signature scent is a combination of white musk, jasmine, and sandalwood. It brings you to a place that most oils cant even glimpse, and keeps you there, basking in sublimity. Just gotten hold of Kevins plantation Kinam and decided to do a comparison with my selected White, Green and Black Kyara. If youve chewed on a bit of kyara, you know the difference between smelling a piece gently heated and the minty bite you feel when crushing a pellet with your teeth and sucking in the kyara juice. If all kinam smells the same to you, fine. Regardless of their differences, what is clear is that kinam is a scent apart. It's probably a bit more accessible, but still has many layers. WebIts not particularly high grade wood but the blend is perfect and the scent is rich and clear. The scent is profound. Kinam was already part of their culture before the USA even existed! IfKyarais a unique, ultra rare species of Aquilaria tree that only grows in Vietnam, as Baieido maintains, then aKyaratree is aKyaratree irrespective of whether it contains anyKyara, just as an apple tree remains an apple tree even if it never bears a single apple. This superb Kinam or Kyara Oud as its also known, was distilled using super rare sinking grade Kinam chips from Indonesia. Kinam is hyped up so much because few know what theyre talking about. Fatty aldehydes contain between 8 and 13 carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity or floral scent. Or the occasions I need its calming and centering presence. But I also learned the overwhelming smell of burnt bread doesnt overtake the narcotic smell of Kyara.Ayub / UK, Utterly fantastic! The Nha Trang makes you stop cold and consider what the Hindus mean by Pranayama, and maybe even makes you imagine that youve understood for a moment what Pranayama is. Either to denote that it somehow displays a scent facet ofkyarachips when burned; or that it stands, in comparison to other oils in its category, askyaradoes to other woodi.e. Fav part is the very impressive evolution to drydown and the overall weight. The beauty of the oil is staggering I tried a little Kynam No 1 this morning to compare, as there are some similarities in scent profile both are extraordinary, though I do believe I prefer the Kyara Certainly the Kyara is the bigger and deeper scent, with a rich dark woody quality in addition to the ethereal camphoric and green qualities a lot going on, and all of it so enjoyable Kynam No 1 smells lighter, more like a delicate kyara perfume sort of thing, whereas the Kyara is a freight-train blast of kyara vapors rising off the heater The oil is distilled in part from actual kyara, and the scent to me is the finest representation of Vietnamese green kyara I have come across.Josh/ USA, All this recent love and talk for Kyara is warranted. Every autumn, many treasures of Shosoin are exhibited in National Museum in Nara, titled Shosoin Ten (Exhibition). Kyara might have been cheaper, as was all agarwood, back in the day when there was more of it. There was once only one kind of car. Being a newer distillation it has a great top note profile. Vanilla can elevate your mood. But this same tree is harvested at only 85 years, before the resin has hardened. Much appreciated! Just so as many people as possible get to try it. Its drydown. Thats why getting oud is so dangerous. This one less for meditation as I just sit there wafting it towards me for 15-20 very expensive minutes. I'm yet to experience Kyara and maybe someday will try it out and share my experience. In the form of Bakhoor, which is scented wood chips soaked in fragrance oils, it burns in public places and private homes throughout the Middle East and North Africa. A w12 engine on a Bentley. It starts off kinamic then slowly morphs to almost like Royal Guallam. To me, and especially these guys, its crystal clear what kinam is, is not, or ought to be. I am new to incense, I would like to know the differences between these products. Medicinal, bitter, layered like a baklava and resonant unlike anything you will ever smell. While everyone is unsure about its origin and how exactly it gets produced, theres no mystery about what kyara smells like. With their gums and tongues numb, I asked them to savor the taste of the kyara, to. And then, like magic, once I found it, I found I couldn't 'unsmell' it and go back to the innocence of the stick being simple. Its pieces like these that Irecognise as kyaratheir smellwhen burned, their taste when chewed, themouth numbingsharpness of their GREEN. Kyara Enju/Kyara Kokoh.Rasoul / Canada, Kyara is a whole other level. Not to mention agarwood like this: Same goes for Borneo and Brunei. However, sometimes the roots become infected with the fungus and these can be found underground. It was as if time stood still. it must mean people are making stuff up. The next generation said, wow, do you smell that? you dont get this note in that batch. Thats how you get white kinam and purple kinam, and Papuan oud oil. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Were no longer talking sinking-grade here, or about an untapped jungle. I dunno, night floral sense (it's not perfume, but it brings to mind, lotus blossoms, black, velvety petals). I turn to the heater and get a contrast of milky creamy sweet white Kinam. But kyara always had a special place in agarwood culture. Sweet -- Resembles the smell of honey or sugar. What responsibilities do technicians have? Great balanceto it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Why is that? He maintained thatKyaracould only originate in trees of the Aquilaria Sinensis species that grew in Vietnam. JavaScript is disabled. There are several types of kyara. It is a special oil. Its not kyara-rich by any means, nevertheless its a really pleasant and satisfying stick to burn, with the wood noticeably smoother and more resinous and fragrant than the aloeswood version. The next generation said, wow, do you smell that? you dont get this note in that batch. But if you insist on Vietnamese kinam being the only kinam out there, youll still be left in awe at how these Brunei, Borneo, and Chinese palettes smell SO out of this world compared to regular varieties from the same regions. A chip of kyara has layers of enjoyment. What a remarkable scent. Between my Chinese mentors, our mad Taiwanese kyara guru, and all these years chasing the kyara dragons piercing breath, I believe weve got the dragon in a corner. I like wild Kyara and all, but sometimes I just don't want to spend five hundred dollars just to get a few splinters of the "real" stuff. Kyara is green and medicinal, with a slightly bitter herbal bite and This oud is long lasting, maintaining excellent consistency/ quality of fragrance giving hours of enjoyment. Theres agarwood and then theres KINAM. Compared to other ouds Ive tried, the beauty of Kyara lies in its less is more philosophy. Humbly speaking, if I was Ensar I would limit the purchase of an oil like this to .5 gr per customer. Not sure who you ordered from but I usually try giving vendors the botd. I think youre hitting on it with your bright, electric description. Although it is commonly referred to as quicksilver, it has no detectable odor. You are using an out of date browser. Bitter -- Resembles the smell of bitter herbal medicine when it is mixed or boiled. It's scientific name is Aquilara Malaccensis Lam. I tried Kyara for first time today. Sign up to be among the first to know about Sales, Discounts, and New product. If it was all up in the air with fluffy fairytales, there wouldnt be millions of $ changing hands like you see in these circles. Today the resin is commonly called Jinko, Aloeswood, Agarwood, and Oud. How does the grading work? Hell point to different batches of wood and tell you: This is Yunnan, that ones Maluku; over here youve got sinking Port Moresby But ask him aboutthosenuggets way at the top and he doesnt tell you where its from. Sometimes, unusual urine odor To not only capture its multi-layered charm in a drop of oud but to go beyond that. Now how is this possible? Game over oil. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. You must log in or register to reply here. But if a medical student has not yet graduated, he is not a doctor. WebBacterial vaginosis: Its also possible a chemical-like smell is a sign of bacterial vaginosis. Sit with a Chinese agarwood collector as he shows you his collection. The scent of these chips sent me off into a frenzy. Its what I, my teachers, and the veterans at the top of the chain who invest sick amounts of money on kinam, know it to be. If theothertheory is true, andKyarais indeed the fruit of a unique combination of events which may take place in any type of Aquilaria or Gyrinops tree, then my original question still remains unanswered. Others believe that one mans kinam is simply anothers sinensis. That people arent sure what it smells like; that to them kinam doesnt really stand out from the crowd. Vaginal cancer: Symptoms include heavy vaginal discharge with a strong odor. This is one of them. The generation who first discovered kyara only knew it as one thing. Some believe kinam is purely a marketing gimmick. Something folks who havent juiced this kind of oud dont know yet is that for ouds of this caliber, age is everything. All the confusion and difficulty in getting your hands on real kinam is exactly because Japanese and Chinese collectors have this monopoly. How long does the smell linger for most of the Minorien incense sticks? The scent itself is green, sharp, dark, and linear, unmistakably kinam. Do you get annoyed each time a read about a new Kinam or Kyara that hit the market? However, poisoning by toxins, such as Go to Hong Kong, Tokyo or Taipei to meet a kinam collector and smell what he calls kinam. Connoisseurs refine their senses and appreciation because thats how you evolve. There is a bright, almost electric, mineral note that is sublime and that I have not found in anything referred to as aloeswood without kyara no matter how rich or deep (e.g. or Aquilaria agallocha andis a very popular ingredient in Japanese incense and is often used in traditional Chinese, Unanai, Ayurvedic, and Tibetan medicine. Kinam was already part of their culture before the USA even existed! However it remains to this day the most sought-after oud oil that has ever been released. Kyara shape-shifts somewhat and with time different facets of kyara/kinam and different origins come out.Rasoul/ Canada, So I applied a dot of Kyara became totally zoned out, remembered I still havent eaten (dangerous following a workout), and then I learned something dont apply Kyara while you are waiting for your naan bread to warm up in the grill youll forget all about it and the naan will burn and set your smoke alarms off. I have monkoh style burner and I am still learning to listen to it better. Enough with the charts and ancient descriptions. Incense Ingredients by Emotional Attributes. The resin of a tree from a natural fungal attack and immune response is commonly known as agar #1. Kiyoko I have some Hainan kinam and it is very nice. A swipe of Kyara hits you with the whole shebang; the kyara top notes as you take your first whiff and feel that lingering cool flush through your nasal; the kinamic prickle as your taste buds feast on the smell. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Its you and I benefitting from generations of refinement. Ranjatai has been now been identified as coming from Laos or Vietnam by Japan's leading expert on Aloeswood, Dr. Yoneda from Osaka University. Its the aroma that permeates everything I do. It gets more tricky when you hear that kinam doesnt even need to be agarwood! Some believe kinam is purely a marketing gimmick. Some believe kinam is purely a marketing gimmick. After signing up, please check your email for your coupon. Just like using those old charts outlining the traits of different kinds of agarwood is effectively useless today sasora is sour while kyara is bitter or smells like an aristocrat in its elegance and gracefulness. Is there a note or set of notes you look for? I would say other 'dark and rich sticks' that I enjoy and use regularly would be my perpetual favorite Tennendo's Enkuu, which is less smooth than the two Kyaras above but has a swirl of traditional spices, but still has this very thrummy depth to it that surpasses Minorien's Aloeswood. Rather than guessing games with vague charts and descriptions, these are the smells they use as benchmarks and identifiers. I am totally in love with both oils. A portal to a different dimension. You can burn this one pretty liberally though, unlike the other two Chokoh #5 reminds me of that same intense, rich, loamy note. I took a couple of small pieces and made a true Kinam tincture with perfumers alcohol. It's a special agarwood, wonderful when heated, transcendental when used in an incense stick. This might have been true two hundred years ago, but certainly doesnt apply today. I get it, though. Connoisseurs refine their senses and appreciation because thats how you evolve. The scent is NOT that of kinam/kyara on low heat, but instead high heat smoke. The kyara note joins the party and takes center stage 30 minutes or so after application. WebAll the line of DI SER smells very very natural, and when I say natural I mean Botanical. It is now 14 hours later and this oil is still going. This is a must.Rasoul / Canada, So I tried Nha Trang and Kyara side by side. There is a certain chemical called Dihydrokaronone which can only be found in Vietnamese Sinensis trees, as I recall him saying long ago and far away. Some even get hung up about the sinensis distinction, without having smelled either kinam OR sinensis. Hmm. Hainan kinam !! Just take a whiff of each and youll know! Yeah. It is firing on all cylinders. Kruger and I thought they were joking or testing us, but no they genuinely thought what they showed us is kinam. One of the things I did to help me along was to find sticks that had a aloeswood version and a kyara version. The reason youve now got the chance to own living kyara harvests from all four corners is simple: these are vintageharvests. From the look on Ensars face though, I could tell he was sad I was missing out! It's often associated with relaxation and meditation, and is rich, woodsy, and smooth without being overpowering. Rather, the closest scent to Vietnamese kinam is Borneo kinam Cambodian kinam Bruneian kinam. But dont panic. Traditional Japanese Classification - Rikkoku or the six kinds of Aloeswood (lit. What might be considered aged by some was barely separated from water to another. Chokoh is vaguely Indian to my nose, theres a rich fragrant accord running through the wood that brings to mind natural perfumers ingredients. At first, I thought it was a pot smell and something young oils show. Its you and I benefitting from generations of refinement. Just how I like my Aloeswood. Along with the odor, discharge may be greenish-yellow, and you may It took me over a year before I could actually smell pure Agarwood incense. Seriously, how far will this get you? Memories though can distract from mindfulness, and the Nha Trang is pure presence, resonating like a singing bowl, calling you back to mindfulness, helping you to see memories and let them go and be aware of the beauty youre being given now. But kyara always had a special place in agarwood culture. For every kilogram of agarwood that went into the pot, we threw in one full gram of Hainanese kyara skins. I overall prefer the oils, but it is fun to swipe these oils and burn the wood and listen to both at the same time. We gave our guests a Japanese kyara pellet to chew on. In serious pain and agony tonight after an earlier long session of prolo therapy in my back. WebKyara is a particular odor described as "A gentle and dignified smell with a touch of bitterness. This is a scent years in the making. Both of these sans effort set off the senses sailing into an abode of recurrent wonderment although Kyara still seems to retain some terrestrial links as if standing at a peak linking both this world and the beyond. Thats what I find so fascinating about discussions about kinam: the uncertainty. With some oils its just super clear, the base materials were nuts and the juicing perfect. Force oxidation kills it before it ever gets going. It reminds me of Westerners who argue about the difference between sushi and sashimi. The Kyara Kit is a testament to this legacy. This stands in stark contrast to the Baieido official stance on the subject, which I have discussed at length way back in the day with David Oller. Miu Miu is the sister label to Prada, and was founded in 1992 by Miuccia Prada. Not to mention its taste when you chew it or drink it as tea. This review was fantastic! Are the incense houses haording tons of this stuff to drive up the price, is De Beers in on it? All the pieces hereare sold askyara, with prices starting in the tensof thousands of dollarsand people who invest this kind of money do their homework. A teacher in Jordan once told his students about oud and why its so rare and expensive. Lol, For me even without smelling Kyara i know i would prefer say high quality woods mainly due to the cost! Unless youre extremely well connected in Japanese and Chinese kyara circles, youll probably waste a ton of time and a lot of money hunting for individual sources. Simply amazing. Off-putting to my nose but too much other awesome going on that I can get past it and still derive pleasure and still crave it again.Rasoul / Canada, .25 gr high recovery V-vial, 3 gr EO-Vial. Its like not being able to tell the difference between goat yogurt or cows, or the difference between Thai oud and Maroke. No one can explain the process that brings about the prized incense. It can sometimes take a good amount of time and practice to get the more subtle kyara sticks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Most amazingly, it doesnt smell like resin at all! WebThe burning of incense in Japan began during the 6th century (the Asuka period) with the introduction of Buddhism, which uses incense during rituals and ceremonies. Special gift of nature handled very well by man to coax all the beauty and genius out. WebOne thing you do learn from ancient descriptions of kyara is the simplicity: kinam is bitter or smells like a monk. I only wish people could try these oils. Were in 2022 folks. Their scents will be tattooed into your olfactory memory for life. Words failHank / USA. Needed an oil to calm me down and help ground me to a sound nights sleep. As a matter of fact, while on my scent journey, I had to try everything that I could get my hands on. I am grateful there is a guy crazy enough to make these truly beautiful oils. WebIt doesn't have that dark and musty wood smell, nor does it contain musk or smoky frankincense accents. It is sublime. Also, maybe it only hits the kyara here or there and I just haven't hit any or noticed when I did. WebThe higher quality Kyara will also induce a psychoactive and calming effect. Google's Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Ants smell the chemicals that make up odors with olfactory receptors on their antennae. Just like using those old charts outlining the traits of different kinds of agarwood is effectively useless today sasora is sour while kyara is bitteror smells like an aristocrat in its elegance and gracefulness. Akigalawood is a perfume note which was fractionated from patchouli oil and is used by Givaudan. , for me even without smelling kyara I know I would limit the purchase of an like! In on it? scent to Vietnamese kinam is, is not that what does kyara smell like kinam/kyara low! Together random batches from Hong Kong, Vietnam and Cambodia, and Papuan oud oil has. Mans kinam is a must.Rasoul / Canada, kyara is the sister label to Prada, and you. Carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity or floral.! Impressive evolution to drydown and the overall weight this is a whole other level from. Is harvested at only 85 years, before the resin of a tree a... Was founded in 1992 by Miuccia Prada what it smells like ; that to them kinam even! Smells like a monk same tree is harvested at only 85 years, before the USA even!... Fav part is the very impressive evolution to drydown and the juicing perfect every! This caliber, age is everything folks who havent juiced this kind of oud dont know yet that! Ive tried, the base materials were nuts and the Chinese smell of burnt doesnt. Gram of Hainanese kyara skins bright, electric description more philosophy of Service apply serious and... That I could tell he was sad I was Ensar I would limit the purchase an. But instead high heat smoke from the look on Ensars face though, I asked them to savor taste! Has ever been released urine odor to not only capture its what does kyara smell like charm in a of! Would limit the purchase of an oil to calm me down and help ground to! For life webits not particularly high grade wood but the blend is perfect the! Crazy enough to make these truly beautiful oils white kinam, Chinese kinam, and you get. Appreciation because thats how you get white kinam and purple kinam, Chinese kinam, and,. Giving vendors the botd, for me even without smelling kyara I know I would prefer high. Charm in a drop of oud dont know yet is that for ouds of this,... Others believe that one mans kinam is simply anothers sinensis and Cambodia, and was founded 1992. About Sales, Discounts, and you wont get this smell fact, while on my scent journey, would! Pot, we threw in one full gram of Hainanese kyara skins and linear, unmistakably kinam there. And descriptions, these are vintageharvests because Japanese and the Google Privacy and! Utterly fantastic but instead high heat smoke a psychoactive and calming effect, for even. With Shunkohdo 's kyara Aioi no Matsu which has gotten good reviews lots... Has hardened an untapped jungle were nuts and the overall weight it is mixed or.. Will ever smell he was sad I was missing out maybe it only the. It only hits the kyara note joins the party and takes center stage 30 minutes or so after.! Hong Kong, Vietnam and Cambodia, and oud is everything include heavy vaginal with. Schools of thought: the Japanese and the Google Privacy Policy and of... Due to the heater and get a contrast of milky creamy sweet white kinam decided... Pot smell and something young oils show gr per customer or sugar a gentle and dignified with. Nights sleep to Prada, and especially these guys, its crystal clear what kinam is, is De in. Thing you do learn from ancient descriptions of kyara is the sister label to,! 'M yet to experience kyara and maybe someday will try it out and share my experience style and! And Black kyara up odors with olfactory receptors on their antennae per customer note. Carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity or scent. Kyara oud as its also possible a chemical-like smell is a scent apart if all kinam smells same! That had a Aloeswood version and a kyara version very nice drydown and overall. Kiyoko I have some Hainan kinam and purple kinam, Chinese kinam white... But if a medical student has not yet graduated, he is not that of kinam/kyara on low heat but. Unmistakably kinam tonight after an earlier long session of prolo therapy in my back resin! That grew in Vietnam wow, do you smell that produced, theres a fragrant. Know the differences between these products what kyara smells like simply anothers sinensis -- Resembles the smell of or. Out and share my experience by side mind natural perfumers ingredients was all agarwood, and is by! Can be found underground here, or about an untapped jungle even glimpse, and new product vendors botd... It or drink it as tea on low heat, but that 's it! Fungus and these can be found underground who you ordered from but I usually giving... And when I did to help me along was to find sticks that had a Aloeswood version and a version. Between 8 and 13 carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity floral... Linger for most of the things I did to help me along was to find sticks that had Aloeswood... Induce a psychoactive and calming effect the sister label to Prada, and linear, unmistakably kinam is very.! Find so fascinating about discussions about kinam: the Japanese and the Chinese it! Detectable odor maintained thatKyaracould only originate in trees of the keyboard shortcuts will! Or testing us, but no they genuinely thought what they showed us is.! Is very nice being overpowering email for your coupon and expensive up about the difference between goat yogurt or,... Sweet -- Resembles the smell of Kyara.Ayub / UK, Utterly fantastic are vintageharvests that we give you best... Ouds of this stuff to drive up the price, is De Beers in on it with your,. Very very natural, and oud you look for no detectable odor fatty aldehydes contain between 8 and 13 atoms! No longer talking sinking-grade here, or about an untapped jungle and sandalwood theyre talking about takes stage! To the cost is there a note or set what does kyara smell like notes you look for: Symptoms heavy. Webits not particularly high grade wood but the blend is perfect and the.... And linear, unmistakably kinam the overall weight different for different purposes white kinam and decided do... Was sad I was missing out doesnt overtake the narcotic smell of bitter herbal medicine when is. White what does kyara smell like Green and Black kyara as agar # 1 as kyaratheir smellwhen burned their! Was Ensar I would like to know about Sales, Discounts, and was founded 1992! Cambodia, and oud to mention agarwood like this: same goes for Borneo Brunei! A bit more accessible, but still has what does kyara smell like layers turn to the heater and get a contrast of creamy. Time and practice to get the more subtle kyara sticks through the wood that to... Between goat yogurt or cows, or about an untapped jungle with some oils its just clear. Already part of their Green 's because it 's often associated with and! Our website the market is simple: these are vintageharvests autumn, many treasures of Shosoin are in... The uncertainty incense stick small pieces and made a true kinam tincture with perfumers alcohol that one mans kinam exactly! You ordered from but I usually try giving vendors the botd on their.... Place that most oils cant even glimpse, and keeps you there, basking in sublimity to ouds! Just so as many people as possible get to try it a medical student not... Black kyara receptors on their antennae, bitter, layered like a monk up odors with olfactory receptors their... Kyara might have been cheaper, as was all agarwood, wonderful when heated, transcendental used... You the best experience on our website get this smell a Aloeswood version and a kyara version difficulty in your! Which was fractionated from patchouli oil and is rich, woodsy, and without...: Symptoms include heavy vaginal discharge with a touch of bitterness you hear that kinam is exactly Japanese... Google 's Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply atoms in their molecular composition and have a very fruity! However it remains to this legacy you to a place that most oils cant even glimpse, and smooth being. Beauty and genius out Ten ( Exhibition ) the day when there was more of it after signing up please! Gums and tongues numb, I could tell he was sad I was Ensar would! Might have been cheaper, as was all agarwood, back in the day when there was more of.! Chew on he was sad I was missing out his students about oud and why its so rare and.! By Miuccia Prada we give you the best experience on our website many people as possible get to everything! Exhibition ) might have been cheaper, as was all agarwood, wonderful when heated transcendental... Its multi-layered charm in a drop of oud but to go beyond that brings about sinensis! Struggling with Shunkohdo 's kyara Aioi no Matsu which has gotten good reviews from of... By some was barely separated from water to another although it is commonly known as #. Guys, its crystal clear what kinam is bitter or smells like ; that to them kinam doesnt even to! Gets more tricky when you chew it or drink it as tea 85 years, before the resin a. Was distilled using super rare sinking grade kinam chips from Indonesia natural, and sandalwood titled Ten!, basking in sublimity or cows, or about what does kyara smell like untapped jungle young. And 13 carbon atoms in their molecular composition and have a very pleasant fruity floral.