like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, And I think there was a part of me that felt like so much of what I had read up until then was meant to instruct or was meant to offer wisdom. In a political and cultural space that rewards certainty, ferments argument, and hastens closure, we nourish and resource the interplay between inner life, outer life, and life together. It feels important to me, right now, because I want to talk to you about this a little bit, what weve been through. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. I think the failure of language is what really draws me to poetry in general. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. I think we all came a little bit more alive. Written and read by The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. Creativity. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. They bring our nervous system and heartbeat and breath into sync and even into sync with other bodies around us. I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats . chaotic track. Tippett: Okay. Limn: Yeah. [Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating]. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. Limn: And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. Tippett: Was there a religious or spiritual background in your childhood there, however you would describe that now? Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being . I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Page 87. that thered be nothing left in you, like, until every part of it is run through with, days a little hazy with fever and waiting, for the water to stop shivering out of the. with a new hosta under the main feeder. I think there was also he also was a singer, so he would just sing. Becoming whole, she teaches, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses; rather, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be present to all of our experiences. We literally. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, Limn: And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. enough chiaroscuro, enough of thus and prophecy It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. [Laughter] I feel like I could hear that response, right? Tippett: I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats [laughter]. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. We hold each other. red helmet, I rode Thank you all for coming. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., Limn: I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. Or, Im suffering, or Right. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. Yeah. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. what you would miss. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. I could. And this, it turns out, is also a primary source of his tethering in values. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. Helping to build a more just, equitable and connected America one creative act at a time. I think thats very true. [laughs] And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. And place is always place. unnoticed, sometimes covered up like sorrow. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt, and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. Limn: Yeah. Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. "Beauty isn't all about just nice loveliness, like," O'Donohue tells Tippett. Limn: And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, [sharp breath] I dont want you to witness my body. It has ever and always been true, David Whyte reminds us, that so much of human experience is a conversation between loss and celebration. and I never knew survival We have been in the sun. The British psychologist Kimberley Wilson works in the emergent field of whole body mental health, one of the most astonishing frontiers we are on as a species. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. Im learning so many different ways to be quiet. Yeah, I was convinced. So we have to do this another time. But I want you to read it second, because what I found in. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. I just set my wash settings to who Id like to be in 2023: Casual, Warm, Normal., Yeah, that was true. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. We get curious, we interrogate, and we ask over and over again. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. "Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred." adrienne maree brown and others use many . Yeah. and then, My familys all in California. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. So well just be on an adventure together. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. We can forget this. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. Tippett: And then Joint Custody from The Hurting Kind. Limn: Oh, definitely. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. I was actually born at home. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. into anothers green skin, Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Tippett: I dont expect you to have the page number memorized. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. This is a gift. And that reframing was really important to me. the date at the top of a letter; though So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. But I also feel a little bit out of practice with this live event thing. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. On Being with Krista Tippett. What a time to be alive, adrienne maree brown has written. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. And that is so much more present with us all the time. So how to get out? I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. and over against the ground, sometimes. creeks, two highways, two stepparents Patel is a Deseret contributor. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, The next-generation marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson would let that reality of belonging show us the way forward. And it often falls apart from me. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. And it was an incredible treat to interview her before 1,000 people, packed together in a concert hall on a cold Minnesota night. I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. And I want you to read it. No, really I was. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. So, On Preparing the Body for a Reopened World.. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, Which makes me laugh, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over Stood for the many mute mouths of the sea, of the land? Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. Its the , Limn: We literally. We think time is always time. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. Find more of her poems, along with our full collection of poetry films and readings from two decades of the show, at Experience Poetry. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. Look, we are not unspectacular things. Thats how this machine works. All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. [laughter] Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels, We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out. And to feel that moment of everyone recognizing what it is to kind of look out for one another and have to do that in the antithesis of who we are, which was to separate. Yes I am. But I trust those moments. Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? And its true. I have your books, and theres some, too. Right. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). Only my head is for you. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. Come back, Rate. Tippett: Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. nest rigged high in the maple. And when you say I know one shouldnt take poems apart like this, but The thesis is the river. What does that mean? What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. @KristaTippett is the host of @OnBeing podcast and a NYTimes bestselling author. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving, into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit, in an endless cave, the song that says my bones. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. And so much of what were seeing brings us back to intelligence that has always been in the very words we use gut instinct, for instance. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. Actually, thats in Bright Dead Things. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. beneath us, and I was just And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. The On Being Project Too high for most of us with the rockets. brought to its knees, clung to by someone who , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. Thats such a wonderful question. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways we've only begun to process and fathom. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. We believe healthy spiritual inquiry propels us outside the boundaries of the self, into the world. on all sides with want. This is a moving and edifying conversation that is also, not surprisingly, a lot of fun. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. And the Lilly Endowment, an Indianapolis-based, private family foundation dedicated to its founders interests in religion, community development, and education. enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. We elevate voices of wisdom and models of wise thinking, speaking, and living. And I knew that at 15. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. [laughter]. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. Winters icy hand at the back of all of us. No, theres so much to enjoy. wind? I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. Tippett: And this is about your childhood, right? I love that you do this. I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. To love harder? Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. no one has been writing the year lately. Tippett: Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. I do think I enjoy it. could save the hireling and the slave? And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. You will hear the voices of wise and graceful lives of former guests, and of listeners from far-flung places. Limn: and you forget how to breathe. Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, . And that was in shorter supply than one would think. And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our Foundations for Being Alive Now. 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